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Poll: Should the jobless woman get her tuition money back because she can't find a job?

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So, a New York City woman who says she can’t find a job is suing the college where she earned a bachelor’s degree-- she wants the $70K she paid in tuition back!


Should she get her money back?


 

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No!


It's her responsibility to go out and find a job not the schools!


It's recession no one can really find a job so???


Wendy's & Mc Donalds are always lookin for new employees

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Rated: -6 | Posted 3 months ago

 

you don't want to work for hardees or mcdonalds or windys


you cant earn enough and they change your time cards.  no benefits and they tell you when you are going on vacation not when you want.  former manager........


is if the school problems a lot of money wasted on schooling and they should be accountable. We are accountable to pay it back starting with in 6 months after school.  banks have your money and your slaves to them thank the government.


fire all government and down the line tired of being broke and pennyless because of them.

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What's the whole point of going to school in the first place..?  I have news for some of you,  McDonald's or Wendy's will not hire you if you have alot of experience and have made lots of money in the past.  I tried,  I didn't even get a phone call back.  This woman may as well go on welfare because her degree IS useless.  She should get her money back because she obviously wasted her money and her newfound education certainly has not helped her.  Unless she has some kind of mental disorder or personality defect as the reason why she's not getting a job,  then she could be unemployed for who knows how long and OUR tax dollars will pay for her to sit at home and collect welfare for at least the next  2 years. We taxpayers can not afford that;  PLEASE someone give this woman a job already..


 

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Rated: -2 | Posted 3 months ago

 

 It's not the colleges fault that this women can't get a job.  She needs to suck it up and realize maybe it's her fault

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Rated: -1 | Posted 3 months ago

 

What is her degree in?  Is she trying to get a job along the lines of her degree?  Is she trying to start at the top of the ladder because she has a Bachelors degree, or towards the bottom/middle?  Did she get involved in any internships/fellowships while in school to help herself? 


The school's job is to educate her, and unless it was a technical school where the schools work with corporations to ensure graduating students have somewhere to go, she should probably seek more schooling or a job that will pay the bills.  Not too many people are fortunate enough to start working in their chosen degree (as someone else is trying to hold on to that position, especially in these economic times). 


There are people with PhD's out of work, tell her sorry, but join the club.  If she wins a suit, then every college student in America will be trying to do the same thing.  You think college tuition is high now, what do you think will skyrocket (a just-in-case measure to cover a possible lawsuit).  Her lack in whatever area will eventually hurt every college student in America.

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Rated: -3 | Posted 3 months ago

 

Maybe it isn't her fault.  Suck it up.  I'll tell you who will be sucking it up,  the taxpayers will,  that's who,  when this woman has to go on welfare because nobody will hire her.  The TAXPAYERS will be footing her bills for food, housing, medical and dental care.  Potential employers should tell you why they don't want to hire you so you at least know what your problem is and can work on improving it. Maybe its her fault,  maybe it isn't.  You work hard in college and get Bs,  but someone else gets As,  should the B student commit suicide because employers only want the A student..???  If we don't get all As, should we just kill ourselves now before graduation so we B students can avoid the letdown of not being able to find a job.  Maybe that's her problem.  Everyone thinks that because someone gets all As in college that they're going to make the best employee,  what narrow-minded thinking, and certainly not true.

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Rated: +10 | Posted 3 months ago

 

If since she earned her BA Degree:



  • she did apply for jobs ( proof needed); 

  • if she has no criminal record ; and

  • she has no personal problems.


Then she or the College Career Office should find a decent paying job for her level. 


  On the other end, why do we attend college and encounter high debts? Isn't  to improve our income and get out of debts????   

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Rated: +8 | Posted 3 months ago

 

In response to the question posed.  I understand how this lady feels. I received my AS Degree and the school that  I attended also said that they would "Assist in Career Placement" of which they did not. I applied for numerous jobs of which none ever called back. Maybe she can go the local Temporary Service in her area .A lot of good jobs are found through the temp services. They do have temp to hire positions. But the key thing is to never give up she took the time to go to school to educate herself and she is just going to have to wait along with the rest  of us out there looking for a job in our field of study.


And for the individual that posted about criminal records and mental disorders. I think that was not called for. I happen to know a few people that have a mental issue of which they could not help who are very intelligent and quite smart. And I also know a few people who have a criminal background for something that happened in their youth. Not all people who have a background are bad people they are those who lost their way in life but paid for their mistakes and just want a second chance. While I too am well aware of those who continueu to do dumb junk they are not the norm. To be truthful a lot of employers who don't hire because a person has a background are missing out on some of the most loyal and dedicated employees. All these people want is a second chance to prove that they are good and decent folk.....just a thought.


 


 


 


 

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College is NOT a guarantee for finding a job.  College degrees are to QUALIFY you for a job.  It is not anyone's responsibility to find a job except YOU!  Times are tough and jobs can be very scarce these days, in which case, she should try to get some help with deferments on her student loans.  Suing the college because she can't get what she wants is much like a two-year old pitching a fit when Mom says "no".   And where is she coming up with the money for this lawsuit anyway?


Bottom line, life isn't a bowl of cherries.  And even if it was, you'd still have to pit them! 

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Rated: -1 | Posted 3 months ago

 

I mentioned something in a previous post about having a mental disorder.  I'm not making fun of someone with a mental disorder, what I'm saying is that could be the cause of not being able to find a job. If you're not taking your medications regularly and you're bi-polar or something that could be a problem,  You understand what I'm saying..?  People have to be able to work with and get along with you so if you do have a mental disorder,  get it under control because the real world will not have any sympathy for you. Life is a bitch that way. As far as criminal backgrounds go,  If I was hiring for a Customer Service position I would NOT want someone who has a previous arrest for assault, battery, etc.... Understand what I'm saying.?? Same thing if I was a Bank Manager and I needed a teller;  I would NOT hire someone with a previous theft arrest,  understand what I'm saying..? Life is a bitch this way

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Rated: -3 | Posted 3 months ago

 

okay i see her irritation at not having a job after college when she spent so much time and money in getting the degree in the first place, but sweetie, college isnt gonna hold you hand once you leave!! :)


like for reals. college is an educational help. Like life is about making it with your own claws; you cant expect the college to make sure all of its graduates have a job. Yeah it may have made promises but the economy looking like it does right now, job promises are very thin. Just get over it and instead of filing such a horrible lawsuit, find a job!!!!


p.s. a degree doesnt guarantee a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 


 


sorry about ranting


jess

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Rated: +1 | Posted 3 months ago

 

Spending $70,000 on College is a lot. it is her responsiblity to find a job but the school is suppose to help her find a job especially paying that much money on college I would have rather not gone to college and keep that money for a house. Colleges now a days are over rated. Now that the economy is so bad I think she should at least get half of that money back. I felt the same way as her but I didn't care to sue instead I just tend to work at King Soopers and finaly found me a job torwards my degree. Still doesn't pay as much as the housings costs. this day in age but it is a job and I am happy to work.

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Rated: +2 | Posted 3 months ago

 

The report was a bit short, so before anything, we don't even KNOW half the story, and I see a lot of people passing judgment and being kinda one-track about their answers. Just sayin'...


Knowing what we know though, both sides of the argument make sense. Why was that school so expensive? And if it was so expensive and (presumably) prestigious, how come she can't find a job? (I'm afraid to think what'd happen to me, going to a smaller and lesser known school T_T)


Also, we don't know how hard she actually looked for a job. Maybe she just expected too much with a bachelor's degree. Has she not read the articles that say even having a bachelor's degree is not enough anymore? We have to get ready to be much more competitive. As I see it, she has one of many choices:


1. asking for a deferment or forbearance on loans


2. get some temporary job (you guys are exaggerating by suggesting fast food, ya know...there are a bunch of things a person can do)


3. going back to school! Loan payment is temporarily forgiven if you go back to school, and it goes with what I said about getting a degree higher than bachelor's. And maybe she'd consider going to a SLIGHTLY cheaper college for that... and getting internships to get a foot into her industry.


4. make a reasonable out-of-court settlement with her school


IT degrees are in high demand today, and if she did all she needed to find a job and still hasn't found it, she should get SOME help. Not all her tuition back. 'cause of course, like someone else said, that'll just screw us ALL over. Tuition will shoot sky high and that'll just plunge us into more and more debt. I haven't even started school and I'm already $9500 in the red. (that is true though... if she's so in debt... how does she pay for a lawyer?!)


*sigh* oh lawsuit-happy America...

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Rated: -2 | Posted 3 months ago

 

COLLEGE DEGREES DON'T GET YOU A JOB RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE!


THE GRADES AND WORK EXPERIENCE YOU GOT IN COLLEGE GET YOU THE JOB!


A DEGREE IS A PIECE OF PAPER!


THE KNOWLEDGE YOU GAINED WHILE GETTING THAT PIECE OF PAPER IS WHAT SHOWS IN YOUR GRADES AND THAT'S WHAT EMPLOYERS ARE LOOKING FOR!

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Rated: +3 | Posted 3 months ago

 

Hey UCSoon, you know that pinkie of yours that's on the A key? Move it 7/16 of an inch over, and turn the caps lock off.


And also, that degree CERTIFIES you have those skills you mentioned. Just like your high school diploma certifies you can breathe.

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Rated: -2 | Posted 3 months ago

 

anyone read ayn rands atlas shrugged? no one is responsible for your life but you!! you cant go around saying life isnt fair and its all someone elses fault and expect to get the unearned just because things didnt work out the way you think they should. why should the college be responsible for her lack of unemployment? why should she recieve a handout (basically) because no ones hiring? does she live in her own world where theres no news? where shes the only one whos looking and not finding work? grow up life isnt fair things dont always work out and you have to deal with it and move on with life. stop whining and join the club ya big baby!!

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Rated: -3 | Posted 3 months ago

 

First of all, yes 70,000 is a lot of money, weren't there cheaper schools for the same education?  It was her choice to go to that college.  I don't think the college guarantees that they will find her a job, does it?  If it's in writing, then sue away, but does she not realize what this lawsuit will look like to future employers?  Who wants to hire a person that sueing her college....doesn't look too good on a resume, huh?  And how does she represent herself?  I see so many applicants show up in shorts, dirty clothes, uncombed hair, smacking gum and such.  There are just sooooo many people looking right now.  After being laid off my job of 8 years, I figured if I was going to get a decent job I would have to get, at least, my associates degree.  Full-time student at 51, scary, but I did it.....almost.  Got a job...a perfect job for me. 


Maybe she needs to work on her interviewing skills, check her attitide, so on. 

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Rated: -3 | Posted 3 months ago

 

Let's ignore the amount of money for a minute. Let's now assume that you bought a computer tutorial at Office Max because you needed to learn how to use Microsoft Excel, because at work you now need to use it daily. Let's say later on, after the thorough tutorial, you just can't do things fast enough, and at work you get demoted or fired. Are you going to sue Office Max? NO. It's not Office Max's fault that you couldn't grasp what they handed to you.


Now compare this woman's story to the one above. It's not the college's fault that she doesn't interview well (i'm assuming her lack of interview skills is what is preventing her from getting a job), so the school should not be to blame.


Also, let's say it's not her lack of interview skills that is preventing her from getting a job. Is this woman aware that many jobs now require more than just a 4 year degree?


What bothers me the most is that this woman only received her degree in April. It has barely been 4 months, some things take time. People fresh out of college aren't going to get jobs handed to them within months.

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Rated: -3 | Posted 3 months ago

 

What a loser. She needs to be accountable for her future; not the school. What a loser!!!!! This is characteristic of the stupid, extra pointless, meritless, and just plain silly lawsuits that actually make it to court! Like that foolishness about the lady who got fat from eating fast food everyday.... Man.... Seriously? Take responsibility for your own lives!!!!! Your school is not your personal assistant! Schools have far too much to do to be following everyone they every gave a diploma, rigging their resumes to look good, and getting them jobs! She probably just isn't a good hire. Perhaps employers see how completely STUPID, LAZY, and IRRESPONSIBLE she is!!! Get over yourself, you silly female! I seriously hope she doesn't win that. I hope that whole case rots in her silly mind. What a mess.

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Rated: -3 | Posted 3 months ago

 

As a Bachelor's graduate from Monroe College I can say from personal experience that my school does offer graduates help and career advice with finding jobs. I received my degree in criminal justice this month and already I have plenty of places calling me for positions. It is her responsibility to go to the Office of Career Advancement in the college to get help with job search and to find suitable employment. The college is not responsible for her laziness, and I say lazy because only a lazy person who doesn't want to see a career counselor at the college will have the trouble she is having. I believe she is trying to get over on her student loans and suing the college will help her pay that in the event that she actually wins which I doubt. Her claim is invalid and holds no weight. 

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Rated: +2 | Posted 3 months ago

 

If the college, this woman attended, guaranteed job placement or job recommendations/assistance she may have a case.  Much will depend on her efforts to find a job.  How diligently did she try?  and exactly what, or if the college promised her.  She should consider relocating to an area where she would have more opportunities to gain employment in her career field.  That's what I'll be doing when I complete my B.A., moving to an area where I'll have a better chance of finding work in my field.

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Rated: -1 | Posted 3 months ago

 

I still just can't see how someone with a dog-on degree in IT doesn't have a job, IF SHE TRIED. My boyfriend has a great job in computer engineering (related field) and he's only a sophomore!!!! Had she tried at all, I think she'd have gotten a great job. She's only been out for four months from what I understand. Four months is not hardly enough time to start thinking your school jipped you. And I saw a person on here who actually went to the same college as the alleged victim, I think... So put a hole in her argument. If you can't make the effort to get a job, then no amount of advisement and recommendations in the world will get you one. If she thought she was having a hard time now, wait til this stupid lawsuit blows over. She's gonna be on welfare for real. Nobody's hiring her.


And LoriU6, you seem very bitter. It's a personal choice to do well in school so that you can get a good job. How many employers have you ever met who prefer someone who only did okay to someone who did great?? It isn't logical. It makes absolutely no sense to shoot for second. On either end of the spectrum. Believe me, if I were the employer, i'd definitely take into account who did better, as well as their course difficulty, yadda, yadda, yadda. Point is, bitterness about what is will not change what is. You have to compete for jobs. They don't give them just because you need them. We all need them. So that doesn't really make you stand out. You have to be able to offer something, and since they don't alreadt know you from the next candidate, they're likely going to look at what they see. You can't blame them for wanting the best. Just be the best.

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So, a New York City woman who says she can’t find a job is suing the college where she earned a bachelor’s degree-- she wants the $70K she paid in tuition back!


Should she get her money back?


 


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Rated: +1 | Posted 3 months ago

 

i have read a lot of other replies and i know that the majority of other correspondents think diffrently BUT i think that this woman should get her money back. She paid $70 probably because the school WAS prestigous, and if that was the case then she must have worked hard to stay in that college you keep your grades up and yes some colleges GUARANTEE that they will find you a job after you graduate, i assume this was the case or else the case wouldnt have made it to court. so if the college couldnt find her a job why did they guarantee it?


why did the college charge her so much for a 4 year degree anyway?

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i have read a lot of other replies and i know that the majority of other correspondents think diffrently BUT i think that this woman should get her money back. She paid $70 probably because the school WAS prestigous, and if that was the case then she must have worked hard to stay in that college you keep your grades up and yes some colleges GUARANTEE that they will find you a job after you graduate, i assume this was the case or else the case wouldnt have made it to court. so if the college couldnt find her a job why did they guarantee it?


why did the college charge her so much for a 4 year degree anyway?


 


It isn't necessarily true that the case only got to court because the school guaranteed job placement. Case in point for stupid lawsuits across America: A woman went to McDonald's and bought a coffee. You know, the coffee they sell and that they tell you is hot so you should be careful?? Yeah, that. She got into her car, put the hot coffee between her legs, and it spilled and burned her. She sued McDonald's AND WON. Imagine that. They tell you it's hot, and you put it in between your legs. She blamed it on the caps they provide, saying that they don't fit on the cups. But they fit rather snugly, in fact. She would have had to be squeezing it with her thighs for it to have opened up and spilled out. But anything can go to court and win these days. So, no, the fact that this lawsuit made it to the news does not mean that there's any real merit or reason behind the suit.
And even if they did guarantee job placement, the most anyone could do would be to find a job opening and get her the interview. They likely assume that she's mastered the skills she's in school for, and if she hasn't presented herself to the school's employment aides for advice and training, well what the heck does she expect? It's up to her to get the tools she needs to succeed. Like they say at a college I attended, "Get your groceries." She's the extra "smart" person who paid $70, 000 for college, so she should at least be smart enough to take advantage of everything that 70 grand paid for.

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If she gets her money back, she should lose her degree credit.


I.E.: She gives up her papers saying "I graduated from college!"


 


 

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Rated: +4 | Posted 3 months ago

 

A lot of people seem confused as to why she paid so much for school. But school is a lot more expensive than it used to be. Granted this includes more than tuition, but going to a public, SUNY school, which is considered inexpensive compared to private schools, I will have paid the SUNY system 80,000 dollars by the time I graduate (and yes I am graduating in 4 years). So don't think that that's insanely expensive, at least not for a private school.

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Rated: +2 | Posted 3 months ago

 

It is unfair, but what in life really is?  Instead of trying to sue someone, try doing something different.  It is all about perspective, and if you haven't realized any of this after graduating college then you should have not earned a degree in the first place.


Although, I do feel sorry for this woman because she is trying to stand up to our unfair educational system that sucks all our money up and leaves us shriveled up begging for a job anywhere.  Desperation is what this sounds like, and I blame our government for not taking care of its people enough to make people do this.  I would never blame this woman or anyone like this.  We elect and hire people to do a job and if they fail so do the people underneath them (us, the society).


Hopefully this makes sense.

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Rated: -2 | Posted 3 months ago

 

what happened to the master's degree?


also, it's her job (how ironic) to help herself get a job.


If she takes back all the money, it's not fair for that college because she took in all that education.


she can't take the money and not give her education back. it doesn't work that way.


she should suck it up & also realize we're living in a recession. there are people who need jobs more than her & because she can't find one she thinks she can just sue the college to get some money?

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