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It's All About the Grades

Admissions committees care most about grades in certain subjects:

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    poseidosblue

    about 1 month ago

    get bent, really andrew? the 70's are over. And thank you mr. Flagel for being unproffesional enough to be able to talk to. Grades however are a small part of the whole admissions thing. No college wants to be filled with a thousand pale faced nerds who spend all their time studying. I have a 4.0 and enjoy sports and volunteering as well.

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    TsatsralB

    2 months ago

    You said, that the main aspect it's a Grades. And I think that you're right. But what should international applicants do, when they want to apply to college? The colleges in US ask them to send transcripts, with the grades. But in some, and most countries, there are no transcripts. The only thing that students have is a School leaving certificate. (Attestat). It contains the list of subjects that the student had, and the grades like: "5", or "4" and etc. I'm form Mongolia, but I finished school in Russia. I have a silver medal for outstanding learning performance. It means that I have only one subject that has mark "4", all the rest marks are "5". Having that medal is very prestigious in Russia. Do the admission staff understand that kind of thing? And about the extracurricular activities: of course colleges wants to have a students with unique and interesting hobbies. But still, in my opinion, the colleges just wants to have a students that can cover the expense of study. And if you can do this, and your grades are not very good, but not too bad. It's all doesn't matter. You will probable be accepted. And all this talks about if you have a great grades and have interesting activities you will be accepted are not suitable for international students.

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    DeanFlagel

    3 months ago

    Jasmine - You're quite right that the title is entirely misleading. Unfortunately the titles come from the Fastweb editors. in the video I try to be clear that grades are certainly not the ONLY thing - but they are BY FAR the most important thing.
    And yes, I'm a real dean of admissions - and I have this awful habit of being really forthright about what goes on in the admissions process, which I've no doubt is probably not what you usually find when you hear from various "experts" in the field. bear in mind, many of them are trying to get you PAY them...
    So yes, Victoria, of course collgs look at your extra-curricular activities, and yes, Jasmine, of course athletes have a tremendous advantage in the process. Neverthless, the most important factor by far is your academic record. Again, title very misleading here - when I say academic record I mean the courses you took, where you rank in your school, trends in your grades...everyhing that is part of your academic record. Not just grades. So yes, title wrong, Flagel right.

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    VictoriaA10

    5 months ago

    not all colleges look at the grades they also look at the extracurricular activities.

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    JasmineD361

    5 months ago

    um, and not to be rude, but is this guy a real dean of admissions? because i feel that if he is, his replies to comments on this article are kind of unprofessional.

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    JasmineD361

    5 months ago

    yeahno. i have friends who are living proof that grades aren't everything, or close to it. if that was the case, than all of us with 4.0+ GPA's would be in Ivy Leagues and UC's instead of lunkhead athletes taking spots from smart kids when they really don't deserve them.

    i'm not hating on smart athletes either; just the ones who wouldn't be in college without the aid of sports.

    mean, but true.

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    MichaelF530

    5 months ago

    I am inclined to agree that grades are more important than many other aspects considered in admitting a student. However it has been my observation that more and more admissions officers are also looking for people who have the grades, have been in extra curricular activities, and who have served their community in some way. Grades do not necessarily reflect one's intelligence, but they do attest for a student's dedication.

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    DeanFlagel

    5 months ago

    Great to hear from everyone, and sorry I haven't commented back sooner. I'll try to get to to pretty much everything that has been raised in one long response:
    First off, thanks Andrew (who suggested I get "bent") - I will endeavor to bend appropriately.
    Nanibabe - yes, I'm fairly full of myself, but also painfully honest. Unfortunately, most of the people who dispense admissions advice are either making $$$ off you or have no idea how the process actually works, other than random observations on who has gotten into some schools, having no idea how that actually happended.
    Wang - not sure how I couldpossibly have MORE confidence.
    qbntoots - no, YOU are. So there.
    John - Grades are even more important for transfer students
    Chris - sorry for the typo, although it was the Fastweb writers quoting me and not my writing, and it looks like those same faceless editors heard you and corrected their error - so thanks!
    IB is an international baccalaureate program or courses - comparable for most schools to Advanced Placement, but with a different approach and, some argue, world view
    Casey - testing is only useful if it tests the right stuff - unfortunately the tests we currently use are far less predictive than grades
    Lauren/Island lover/Mari/Jakob and many others - You are SO right. The admissions office is inherently flawed. Although better than the tests we use, grades (and remember, I don't just mean GPA, but the whole academic record) are not very predictive of performance in college. Street smarts would be WAY better - if only we had a way to measure that. Worse, you don't get any grades on your involvement, so its virtually impossible for colleges to distinguish well (although we try) between the student who works, who is involved in 20 clubs, who is the president of the class, a varsity athlete, a virtuoso musician, etc, etc. I'm not saying it's RIGHT, but it is a fact that grades (again, whole record, not GPA) are BY FAR the most important factor in admission decisions. Everywhere.
    That being said, of course there are exceptions. You will find great athletes and musicians being admitted outside of this formula. Same goes in many cases to legacies and donors. And yes, Thomas, you can alwasy find exceptions, but don't bring me an exception just on a GPA - it's NOT just about GPA, but about the whole academic record.
    Kelsey - Despite the catchy title, it's clearly not ALL about grades - but grades are the biggest factor in making most admissions decisions. Now here's the really important part...that does not have ANY bearing, nor is meant to, on success in life. Getting admitted to a college is going through a process - don't let that become a substitute for your value or success - that's giving college admissions officers WAY too much credit.
    And yes, Kelsey, I am annoying. Often. But also right. Likely these two issues are related.

    Keep those comments coming! Be seeing you.

    Dean Flagel

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    JacobL697

    5 months ago

    Grades are the over all reflection of how you did in High School, but more importantly, they are the reflection of how much you cared about school. When you don't do your homework you don't get good grades, but it shows you don't care. When you do poorly on a test it reveals how much you studied, and therefore how much you care. Colleges want people who care about doing well because if alumni do well it is a reflection upon the school, and people who care about school often care about advancement at work and in the community as well. This is advice is right on!

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    yuly

    5 months ago

    Grades are important but also attendance and punctuality as well. College admissions should not be based on grades but in actions.

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    CarlyD67

    5 months ago

    Grades do open doors for scholarships, but grades are not the only thing colleges look at. Some people who get C's are smarter than people who get A's. Hopefully colleges accept the people who apply themselves to achieve their best of their abilities. People are greater than grades :)

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    GabrielaG264

    5 months ago

    Grades arent everything colleges want a well rounded student. If your grades are not spectacular its ok as long as you can show steady improvement on you transcript. no one wants some one whos just going to study all day and not take on the real world.

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    MatthewH917

    5 months ago

    Since the purpose of college is to study and get a degree, what could be more important? I exempt from this people on the track to go pro in a sport, but if you can't run a 4.2, you know what you need to do to get to college.

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    KelseyD295

    5 months ago

    Dean Flagel is so annoying. Yes, grades are important, but other things matter as well.

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    KrystenC14

    5 months ago

    I think he's right. I think grades are losing their significance. Those people who are willing to work hard at good grades should get rewarded for it.